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Thoughts?  I recognize that some of the posters on this forum are using font color as their "signature" but it is hard to read.

Here's your original post in black:

As I alluded to earlier, in a different thread, Car and Driver recently performed a winter tire test, up in upstate Michigan.  I was as surprised at the outcome of their test as I was some of the rankings in the most recent CR test.  They tested four Michelin tires, the ultra high performance (but still all-season) Pilot Sport A/S, the Pilot HX MXM4 (as the all-season tire), thee Pilot Alpin PA3 (as the performance winter tire), and the X-Ice Xi2 (as the standard winter tire).

The results in snow were predictable.  The Pilot Sport A/S was the worst performer, with a 30-0 MPH braking distance of 123 ft.  The best tire, the X-Ice Xi2, cut that down to 83 ft, which represents a dramatic difference.  The acceleration times were similarly much better with the winter tires, on snow.

But that's where the predictability ended.  Their other testing was done on wet pavement and dry pavement, both noted by the article as 23*F.  Both the Pilot Sport A/S and Pilot HX MXM4 performed very close together in both of these non-snow conditions.  Braking from 60-0 MPH came in 128-130 ft between the two on dry pavement, and in 139-140 ft on wet pavement.  But the Pilot Alpin PA3 trailed both tires by non-trivial amounts (141 ft on dry and 145 ft on wet).  And the X-Ice Xi2 is even less impressive, posting a 158 ft braking distance on dry pavement and 174 ft on wet.  That's a 25% increase over the Pilot Sport A/S on cold wet pavement, and near that on cold dry pavement.

All this seems to fly in the face of all the advertisements that claim that winter tires are safer than all-seasons below 45*F.  It's not just this article either, but CR has mentioned before that they've found similar results from earlier testing.  Not only that, but the highest-performing warm weather tire here, the Pilot Sport A/S, is still the best performer well below freezing, as long as there's no snow.  Ironically, the article states that Michelin insists that these tires not be called "snow tires", that they're "winter tires", designed to be superior to all-season tires under a variety of conditions.  The data appears to suggest that the amount of snow one gets should play a pretty heavy role in the decision to use winter tires, because even on dry/wet conditions at well below freezing, not only do they appear to have no advantage, but they seem to have a disadvantage when compared against their warmer weather cousins.

Thoughts?  Comments?


See what I mean?


Edited Nov-3   by  Cale_Johnson
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I apologize if you couldn't see it clearly.  My eyes must not be as sensitive.  This is in a darker blue.  Is it easier for you to read?
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Yeah, darker blue vibrates less but it's still not as easy on the eyes as black. I didn't mean to be critical of your post. I like your posts but several long paragraphs in blue type causes shimmering and that makes it hard to read.

See the examples below, nothing is as easy to read as black:

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Thanks for all your post.  As far as color of fonts, black is easiest to read.    


To personalize post, why not add emoticons?

 
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No apology required: no offense taken!  I agree that the black is easiest to read.  I like to change the color so I can go back in various threads and quickly see if/what I've previously written.  I'll just stick to changing the font.  I'm writing this now on my laptop (previously was on my desktop) and on the laptop, I do see the additional challenge the color provides.
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You should also consider what conditions are the most prone to a car accident.

I may drive more often on dry pavement in winter, but it's usually under a snowfall that I need all adherence I can get.  So i can sacrify a lot of dry adherence for more winter adherence.

As for the cost of snow tires, my summer tires usually don't wear when I'm running on snow ones...
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